NBA fans on a regular basis dismiss John Stockton, despite his historic stats, records, assists, and greatness
I’m not a Utah Jazz fan and Stockton isn’t one of my favorite players. Personally I didn’t care for them too much. It’s like LeBron said, I wasn’t riding with them in NBA Live. I wanted Michael Jordan to defeat Utah.
I wanted the Houston Rockets to beat Utah in the 1997 Western Conference Finals. Stockton and Malone’s Jazz were down 13 going into the fourth quarter of game 6.
Stockton had 13 fourth quarter points, including the buzzer beating 3 pointer over Charles Barkley’s outstretched arm to break a 100-100 tie.
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I don’t understand? At least three-times-a-week, I see a post on social media claiming John Stockton was nothing special. Many younger fans who didn’t watch some of the legends from the past, jump to conclusions of stupidity, believing that the stats tell them the true story.
Real NBA experts know stats can be an inefficient form of ranking players because the rules have been changed to increase scoring in the last 10-15 years. The ball don’t lie but many of the numbers do.
Stop cheating, only because it doesn’t always work and it leads to beliefs that turn into statements that are pure idiocy. You’re embarrassing yourselves. Stockton is NBA greatness, it is as easy as looking at the statistics. I’ve done the eye test, John Stockton is not to be dismissed.
Is it the stats, money?
Anyone who dismisses John Stockton, his records, or his greatness doesn’t possess any basketball knowledge and most likely never seen him play.
These people think they’re spreading facts but what they’re really doing is manufacturing declarations of nonsense on social media.
Watch legends like Stockton before you judge them with ignorance. Why wouldn’t you actually want to be in the know? I could never talk about something like I possess a level of expertise that I didn’t have.
Like 4,000 more Kidd
John Stockton is the NBA’s all-time leader in assists, while Jason Kidd is second. The Utah Jazz point guard has almost 4,000 more assists than Kidd on some Secretariat sh..!
He has the single season record for assists-per-game with 14.5, this John Stockton record was set in 1989-90. An NBA player averaging over 14 assists-per-game has only happened twice in league history, it was Stockton with the two highest assists average of over 14-per-game.
John Stockton assists were common place in Salt Lake City, Utah. In 1992 he won an Olympic gold medal in Barcelona, playing with the dream team. He played in 10 NBA all-star games too. Winning co-mvp with Jazz teammate Karl Malone in 1993.
John Stockton had nine straight seasons where he led the NBA in assists-per-game and he has five-of-the-six top assist-per-game averages of all-time.
Someone said earlier this week that Stock wouldn’t be able to do anything with Russell Westbrook. He was a five time NBA all-defensive team selection too.
There are five major statistical categories in the NBA, points, rebounds, assists, steals, and blocks.
John Stockton doesn’t only lead the NBA in assists, he is also the all-time leader in steals too. He is at the top of the record books in two of the five major statistical categories.
John Stockton stats, awards & records
- 10x All-Star
- 11x All-NBA
- 5x All-Defense
- all-time steals leader
- all-time assists leader
- 9x assists champ
- 2x steals champ
Stockton had almost 20,000 points and shot 51.5% from the field and 38.4% from the three point line.
Last month there was a “who’s the top point guard of all-time” list on Facebook and in the description, the writer said “Stockton only had his numbers because of Karl Malone”, this wasn’t an opinion but his reasoning for dismissal altogether.
SO F…ing FOOLISH. Any Point guard list that doesn’t start with Magic Johnson and John Stockton is illegitimate and shouldn’t be taken seriously.
What’s funny about that is someone is going to start arguing this with me. That’s not the funny part, what’s idiotically maddening to the point of laughter is these people will be the same ones who base everything on statistics.
At least be consistent, if you’re not coming equipped with expertise or knowledge.
If you base everything on statistics, why change your method when it comes to Stockton assists or John Stockton records?
He holds many NBA records including most assists and most steals all-time. He has the second highest assists-per-game average with 10.51, only Magic Johnson’s is higher (11.19).
I’m not really big on using too many analytics in basketball, especially defensive ones. They can be misleading. They’re not all cut and dry like in baseball.
I’ve covered some of John Stockton’s stats and records and now I’ll dive deeper into the analytics.
He was ranked within the top eight three-times in defensive rating and has the third best value over replacement player in history (106.5). John Stockton has the best assist percentage and the 7th best offensive rating in NBA history.
Stockton’s win shares are sixth best in NBA history and the best of all-time for a point guard (207.7). Eleven seasons he was top 10 and eight of those seasons, he was ranked top 5.
Offensive win shares he’s ranked seventh all-time (142.8), finishing in the top 10 twelve times in his career.
Since I started writing this piece, someone wanted to make sure I was aware of John Stockton’s turnovers. What a joke! John Stockton has a 3.72:1 assist-to-turnover ratio for his career. That is phenomenal. It doesn’t get much better. Chris Paul has a career ratio of 3.91.
Russell Westbrook has a ratio of 2.38:1, which isn’t what I would want out of my floor general.
Perk sounds like he’s on Percs
Kendrick Perkins basketball expertise and I.Q on NBA history is about as high as his vertical leap was as a player. Why are Steph Curry and Russell Westbrook on a list of any top 5 point guards?
Steph is one of the greatest shooters ever and revolutionized distance but he is a combo guard. He only plays the PG position because he isn’t big enough to be a shooting guard. Not taking anything away from Curry but he’s a shooter. No matter what he does he isn’t making his teammates better.
No pure shooter is, maybe if he was a good defender, scratch that, he doesn’t belong here. Definitely doesn’t belong in front of Chris Paul, and John Stockton belongs with Magic.
Kendrick Perkins is a damn idiot. I’m thinking of all the great point guards as I’m typing, the ones who could be or should be here. Really you’re putting Russell Westbrook in your top 5? He wouldn’t crack the top 10 in most knowledgeable fans lists.
Every time he gets two assists, he turns the ball over. If Perkins doesn’t know or understand the talent that has played in the past, then he should just focus on the current players.
Logic Followed by unreason
This tweet is from someone who doesn’t suffer from idiocy but the person replying to the knowledgeable tweet suffers from idiocy with stupidity.
“Stockton was amazing, but everyone knows those assist totals are rubbish. Stockton averaged 4 more assists per game at home compared to the road. Just home cooking by the scorecard keepers”.
I get dumber every time I read this. Just staring aimlessly in confusion. I guess he’s saying Stockton was amazing but his assists are manufactured?
WTF, WTF, WTF are you FU…… TALKING ABOUT. There is literally a definition to what an assist is. It’s when a player leads another player to a field goal within two dribbles or less.
How much greater was John Stockton was at getting assists compared to everyone else’s? When you look at his totals, it makes some people skeptical, like “NONSENSE, THAT’S RUBBISH!!!
By the way, everyone DOESN”T know John Stockton’s stats are fake, because they’re not. Stock didn’t play in the 1950’s, you could literally go back and watch those assists. It’ll take a while because of how many he had, but it can be done.
Just a piece-a-crap thing to say anyway. Trying to convince people not only that his stats aren’t authentic but throwing in that everybody knows this. Especially when the facts you are basing everything on are false.
Puff, Pass, Pass
The most assists John Stockton ever had in a game was 28. He also had a game with 27,26, and 24 assists. He has had 22 or more assists in a game 13 different times for the Utah Jazz.
Guess where those stats rank him? That’s right, I don’t even need to tell you where he ranks, you already know.
Stockton has had 38 games with over 20 assists in a NBA game. Magic Johnson had 31 games with at least 20 assists. Nobody else in NBA history has cracked double digits games with 20 assists.
John Stockton had 27 assists in a road game, back in 1989, strictly on some RUBBISH NONSENSE. John Stockton has had many 20 assist games on the road.
Stockton did not average four more assists at home compared to the road. This is either a lie or a person not equipped for this conversation. MISINFORMED.
When the Jazz went on the road, the opponents must have tried to pad Stockton’s stats too. For his career, John Stockton averaged 10.9 assists at home and 10.1 assists on the road.